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Post by mistikinz on Aug 20, 2005 11:35:18 GMT -5
My first astral experience was when i was 18ish and was living in Ozark. It was around 10pm and I laid down to watch some TV before going to sleep.
I had this very light feeling and I remember almost floating over my bedroom. It was as if I had no control over where I was going. I don't remember leaving my bedroom, as in opening the door or anything like that. I looked back and seen my body laying on my bed, I wasn't scared because I really had no idea what was going on. When I turned my head back around I seen this light and there were lots of other people walking around, only I couldn't speak to them and they couldn't speak to me. The light was a single street light and barely lit anything, so it was rather hard to see anyones faces.
Suddenly, there was a young woman beside me, she held my hand and told me without really speaking that "these streets are not for me and that she was going to take me home before i got myself lost forever".
The next thing I know I'm back in my bedroom and she sits on the couch beside my bed and I feel like I'm rolling in the air and it's almost as if I was fighting myself to get back in my body.
Once I was back in, I woke up and felt the need to hug myself very tightly. LOL.
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Post by PK on Aug 20, 2005 11:45:45 GMT -5
Wow, that's totally different from mine, but I think everyone's is probably different.
I have read about others meeting on the Astral Plane, I will find that and see what it says.
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Post by Ang on Aug 20, 2005 20:52:48 GMT -5
Okay PK, help me with this… after you read this post, tell me if it’s astral projection or lucid dreaming, cuz I’ve never been sure. It only happens when I’m sleeping, never awake. I have a sense of awareness that my body is in bed sleeping, I don’t actually see myself, I just know I’m there. But my conscious (is this the right word?) mind is somewhere else. At first I’m in darkness (to me this seems like the portal to where I’m going) and I sense rapid momentum and vast distances being traveled. When I come into focus again, or awareness, out of the darkness - I’m always in the same house. And every time, every single time, I say to myself - DAMMIT! - here we go again. Because I actually hate this dream, and you’ll see why as you read along. Now I’ve had this dream all my life, and I’m pushing 40 now - so that’s a few years of time passing. And this house CHANGES with time. In my earliest memories of it, it was white painted small wood slat siding, big gray porch with rock steps, and a dirt drive way. The inside was decorated kinda like our Grandma’s decorated, you know… doilies on the tables, lots of dark wood furniture, sheer curtains and those old roll type plastic blinds. Later on the house was sided with vinyl or steel siding and it was a beige color with black shutters on the windows (also all replaced with new ones). The old gray painted wood porch is now cement and a nice sidewalk, and the drive have been paved. The inside has also changed with the times, fairly modern, middle class, nice entertainment center, lol. The woman who lives in this house has aged accordingly as well. At first she was a “grown up” (I’d guess around 30?) and she use to have long hair she brought up in the front on each side of her head with hair combs, leaving the back hanging down. She always wore a dress then too, and usually a little half apron. Now she’s much older, has a lot of gray in her hair and her hair’s cut short. She’s usually in a matching pants suit of some sort, pants and jacket made of the same material, nice shirt, and like SAS shoes… like the ones Nurses wear, but not white, these are navy blue.
And no matter where in the house she is, or how hard I try not to - I always scare the shit out of this poor woman. I seem to “pop” in within the same room she’s in, but from really weird perspectives… I see her as if I’m up above her on the ceiling looking down… or as if I’m outside a window looking in… or behind a piece of furniture peeking around it… from under things even. And I have never - ever - been able to see myself. Which I think means something… I honestly think if I could see myself, I’d be scared shitless too. I’ve got this feeling deep inside that I do not look in this dream as I do in life at all. If you could see the look on this woman’s face when she spots me, the pure horror it must be for her, it’s unreal. I’ve made her fall, trying to run away. Scared her bad enough to make her scream out and start crying real tears. It’s just crazy the way she reacts… like she’s looking at the devil himself. And I can’t stop it. When I try to get away and keep her from seeing me, something in the house always draws attention to me. Objects will fall, noise will be made, something always happens to make her look right at me.
Then, it’s like - once she gets the hell scared out her, my work there is done. I go instantly to the darkness, feel the momentum and travel, and become aware of being in bed again. I still never see myself tho. And I can’t wake myself up easily, I have to lay there and try and try. Finally, I’ll wake up, in my bed, all well with the world around me. I hate it. But I don’t know what it is or how to stop it.
So what do you think? Astral projection? Lucid dream?
~Ang
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Post by PK on Aug 20, 2005 21:20:07 GMT -5
Whoa...that's not like anything I have ever heard of. But from what I have read with lucid dreaming--you are totally in control of the dream--so this would not be lucid dreaming since you are not in control of it.
With AP, I think you would have some control too and are able to project yourself and be visible...which you are to this woman, but you should be able to 'do' what you want to. (I got chills now...lol) Yes, that is totally freaky and I understand why you would hate that dream...and obviously this woman does not understand the 'spirit' world or she would not be so scared..unless like you said you may look hideous...or she thinks you are after her (chills again).
I will research this and contact James..I wish he would log in so I could send him here and get his opinion. This is beyond my knowledge...especially since I don't do much with dream interpretation.
Off to check it out.
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Post by Ang on Aug 21, 2005 0:24:42 GMT -5
I've tried on many occasions to get a glimpse of myself in her house, she's got several mirrors. There's one in her bedroom on her dresser, there's a really big one in her living room hanging on the wall, and there's probably one in her bathroom although I've never actually been in that room - I can see it from her kitchen. I've also tried to see my reflection in the window glass the few times I've been outside her window. But so far, no luck. The second I so much as get the thought of moving - something draws her attention to me - she gets the bejeezes scared out of her, and I'm on my way home. There's so many things I'd like to be able to ask her... why she was never married, why she's stayed in the same house so long, what her name is. I think her favorite color is probably blue, a lot of her household decorations are blue and she's often dressed in blue. And she either drinks coffee or tea, I can't tell which, but she's often got a cup in her hands or one sitting on a table by her. She started wearing glasses about 10 years ago too. I don't think her ears are pierced, I've never saw her wearing ear rings. She never has had a ring of any kind on her fingers, but she does wear a big assortment of gawdy bead necklaces. And I've never saw her in shorts or jeans, or wearing socks. She's always in a dress or a pants suit, and either wears hose or nothing for socks... I really can't tell, her ankles just look skin color. No pets, not even a fish. I have saw her reading mail before, but I wasn't close enough to see what it was or what it said. She does have a phone, and I've saw her answer it before. She didn't talk long though, just a lot of "yeah, yeah, no, no, thank you for calling, goodbye". And she must live in town too, because I've been there when a grocery store delivered a bag of groceries to her. And like I said, her drive got paved a few years back too. One odd thing I noticed a long time ago was that she has several nice clean ash trays around her home, and I've never saw her smoke or any kind of smoking related items laying around. Dunno if she just uses them as decoration, in case smoking company drops by or what. It's weird too, there's some areas of her house that I can describe in intricate detail, and others I've never actually been in - and only see from another room. Like the bathroom, I know where it is, can see it from the kitchen, but have never even been close to it's door. I also know she's got a guest bedroom, I can see it's door from the hallway outside her bedroom, but I've never been able to walk that direction. There may be a laundry room on her back porch too. There's been a laundry basket sitting on the kitchen counter by the back door a few times. The only thing I have ever been able to connect this woman and her life to - in reference to me - is she does do quite a bit of needlepoint, and I noticed once that she makes a french knot like I do. There's a correct way - and then there's the way I (we) do it. LOL I'd have to show you to demonstrate what I'm talking about. This is the only thing we seem to have in common. Let me know if you get any info on this. ~Ang
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Post by PK on Aug 21, 2005 9:18:02 GMT -5
I emailed James last night, but it may take him a day or two to answer. This is more like--I don't know what to call it. It's got me stumped...which doesn't take much sometimes..LOL
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Post by PK on Aug 21, 2005 9:22:53 GMT -5
Misti....the only thing I found was that ppl sometimes do this as a group and meet on the astral plane, or sometimes if you get advice from like someone you know, you have possible met them on the astral plane and spoke to them about your problem.
As for being lost forever...there are no written records that anyone has ever gotten lost on the astral plane. The astral body knows how/where to get back to the physical body.
That does make you wonder though if it has something to do with coma patients. Maybe their astral body is out on the astral plane. That could be worth researching.
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Post by mistikinz on Aug 24, 2005 12:07:26 GMT -5
Yes, I agree about the coma patients, it just makes sense that someone could be lost, I mean we get lost all the time in our waking state, why couldn't we get lost in a non-waking state?
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Post by PK on Aug 26, 2005 0:09:56 GMT -5
I spoke to a friend about Ang's experience and this is what he had to say:
A:]I know what she is doing, I used to do it all the time back around 2000.
She's (perhaps subconsciously) using other planes (like Astral, Aetheric, etc) to travel to another location and perhaps even time, then trying to re-manifest in the meterial plane at that location.
I'm willing to wager that when she's doing so, she is a point mid-way
between awake and asleep, at night, but it is daytime (a shift in time) in the remote location.
[12:38] PK: Do you think the woman she has been seeing for years is a real person? She says it
terrifies the woman when she sees her..like Ang is a hideous creature or something.
A:]Doing this always results in a mild sleep paralysis which leaves the person
awake, but unable to move for a few minutes when they awaken from it. A:]Yes.. A:] She is real, as is the house and everything else... but I can only
speculate what a person trying to manifest in a remote location would look like... perhaps much
like a ghosts, smoke-like... or could even just be a set of eyes hovering in mid-air. [12:40] PK: wow. I will ket her know [12:40] PK: I've just never heard of anything like this, so it bumfuzzled me.
A:]So the location is real, on the physical plane, but to get there, Astral or
Aetheric would be used. Kind of like leaving the body behind in order to travel by thought to a
remote location... Thought (having no weight) could exceed the speed needed to move forward or
backward in time as per Einstien's theory of relativity (between mass and energy) in order to
move through time.
[12:44] PK: Would she necessarily have some sort of connection to this woman or did she maybe
just 'pick' her at random?
A:] No idea, could be random, could be familiarity, could be similarities in the
location or with the person. [12:44] PK: ok, thanks
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Post by Angie on Aug 26, 2005 1:13:22 GMT -5
Ah Ha!! Oh yeah... Imma print this and duct tape it to JT's retarded forehead. ;DLMAO I told him and told him for 20 years I did so too go somewhere when I had this dream - and he argued. He said he dreamed about flying around town a lot like a bird, and being naked in a public place (yeah, I was thinking nightmare too, lmao) - and he never actually went anywhere, never left his body - so neigher did I. I do too, he's just too retarded to realize it. I've always wished I had a "sleep partner", someone I could work out some kind of signal with, so when this dream happens, I could wiggle a toe or something to let them know - and they could try to wake me up. I bet ya a nickle, I can't BE woke up until I get back. But JT refuses to play along. Cuz he's a retard. LOL ~Ang
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Post by mistikinz on Aug 27, 2005 14:45:52 GMT -5
Maybe JT is scared that he may be wrong and that's why he doesn't want to be your "sleep partner".
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