PK's Dream

[PK]

I will try to tell this story in order as I remember it, without being extremely lengthy...it's two seperate dreams with some back story.

A few weeks ago, a friend and I were talking. She has mentioned her past but never really told me anything specific. I can read between the lines (sometimes) and feel like I know some of the horrors that she has been through. She has had way too many supernatural incidences in her life so you wonder just how much is true is how much is made up. I have gotten the impression that something has been after her for a very long time.

The night that we spoke a little more in depth (without really saying anything) is the night I had the first dream. In the dream, her, I and her husband are laying in the back of an old wagon (the kind with the short side rails) and there's a lot of men standing around looking at us (all the men look the same--dark wavy hair, beard and mustache). Then this gray cloud tries to go down my throat and I grab it (even though it appears to have the look and consistency of a cloud I am able to grab it) and I begin trying to rip it apart, I pull at it like the old folks used to pull taffy candy.

I woke up, and needless to say I was a bit un-nerved. I was afraid but not terrified. It was about 1:00am and I started to call her on the phone and ask her just what in the hell was after her--but I didn't. I did tell her of the story the next day, and then all kinds of just wierd little things begin to happen.

That weekend I spoke to my husband about it and he seem to think it was a demon attack (because he had one attack him in his younger days) so that following week I went to her house and did a banishing/protection spell. Afterwards, her daughter did sleep better, but small things still were just not right. My dog seemed edgy, and a 200 pound edgy great dane is not fun.

After that first dream I just felt differently about this person too. I don't know if I let the thing spook me or if I was just remembering my first impressions of when I met her. They were not strong feelings so I sort of ignored them. Beginning to think I shouldn't have.

In between the first dream and the second dream, I just feel totally drained when I am around her or even talk to her on the phone. Needless to say, I have avoided her as much as possible without trying to appear that I am avoiding her. I'm not sure if she is a psychic vampire or not, and if she is one I am not sure if she is aware of it or not. Chris seems to think that she may be aware of it. I don't know.

Over the last two weeks or so, I have kind of felt like maybe something had me, but I have chalked it up to paranoia because I know that the mind can mislead you and too much thinking into things can lead to paranoid behavior.

Then comes the second dream and I don't remember much about it, it was a general everyday dream at first and then in the dream I looked at myself in a mirror and I remember (in the dream) telling myself that I was okay and nothing had it's grip on it, and then I busted out laughing at myself in the mirror and thinking (still in the dream) that I had everyone fooled.

Does something have it's grip on me? I don't know.
Am I just paranoid from thinking about bad things? I don't know.

I do know that I have been totally drained for the last month, I am in a major battle with depression, and extremely reclusive (which is not all that wierd for me)--I am also 38 years old and have the beginnings of hot flashes and do know that hormonal imbalance can make the sanest person think they are crazy.

My solution to this so far has been to ignore it---not give it any more energy than it already has. Sort of like out of sight out of mind. I've quit thinking about demons and bad shit and really trying hard to focus on the positive (which has been a major task).

Funny--but for the first time in my life I hope that I have just made myself paranoid and that's all it is. But greatly appreciate any input in this.

Will also post this at CYSIN for the supernatural buffs.

[Ang]

I'm going to come at this from a couple different angles. First, assuming you're just paranoid and there isn't a possible paranormal factor coming into play.

I’ve known for a while now that you were struggling with something. But I felt pressing you into a reveal before you were ready would have been an even further drain on your energy. So I’ve been waiting patiently for you to revel on your own time. (Okay, maybe “patiently” is a lie, lol) I want to address the dream first. As you know, dreams are more often figurative as opposed to literal - right? So, for argument sake, let’s assume yours was figurative. Something unwanted was going down your throat… or attempting to. Perhaps something in your unconscious feels like this person is “shoving things down your throat”? The on-looking figures concern me a bit, typically when there are unknown on-lookers in dreams, they signify the powers, watching over you. I’m guessing this was a form of mental protection your own mind provided itself with, spiritual “watch guards” making sure they not only SAW what was happening to you, but could have intervened had the unwanted “thing” made it’s way inside and you called for help. By over coming the unwanted intrusion, obviously you not only withstood the attack, but were victorious in the battle.

You also mentioned this person possibly being a psychic vampire. One of the main feelings a person experiences when dealing with a psychic vampire is the sense of being completely over whelmed. All of a sudden your concentration is gone, your focus is scattered, your nerves are on edge, everything seems like a struggle and hurdle you’ve got to fight to endure. The natural response is to withdraw, usually inward. The more spiritually vulnerable and drained that you are, the more your spirit is going to withdraw from all possible sources of pull - in an attempt at “recharge” in a safer environment. What sucks, is that your psyche, your soul, your spirit - has no distinction between a good (normal) and a bad (abnormal) “drain”. If one of the kids hits you at 10 at night with “I need a dozen cookies for school tomorrow!”… you’re going to react like you just got a pan of hot water thrown on you. Your whole self will want nothing more than to escape the situation, run from it, hide - get away. In a “normal” frame of consciousness, you’d be able to discern this difference (and even though you might be agitated at the kid) - you’d deal with this “normal“ drain on your energy. When a psychic vampire has sucked ya dry - even something as small as this can feel like more than you can possibly take.

Negative draws negative, positive draws positive - you know this to be true. You can see the situation your friend is in, the frame of mind she’s in - is negative. Now ask yourself this: Unless I’m negative too - why are we friends? You’re NOT negative, you’ve just been drained into this temporary state of negativity. Make sense? She knowingly - or unknowingly - has drained you down to the same energy level with her. By doing so, you instantly became more compatible… so you probably didn’t FEEL like it was a bad thing. Now I KNOW you, and you’re a half ass empath anyway. LOL It doesn’t take much to draw you in, I’ve done it myself - not even meaning to. I’ve ran into you on-line and you were in a FANTASTIC mood, but I started telling you how my life or circumstances were sucking - and pretty soon, you’d be right there with me emotionally! Um… here’s a super simplistic example… when I read a book, I can only tell you the basic “this happened, that happened“ story. When you read a book… you live it. If it’s dark and rainy in the book, it sets your mood. Your mood in YOUR life when it’s dark and rainy is what you FEEL when you read a book set in dark and rainy conditions. Not everyone has this ability. I don’t. And often wish I did.

The world is filled with negativity, people and forces alike. We can’t simply choose NOT to cope with it. We can’t even very effectively avoid it, the crap’s everywhere. LOL The best we can do is try very hard to surround ourselves with the positive people and forces. This at least helps to balance the scale, and “recharge” us when a drainer comes along. Believe me, I practice what I preach - you know my Mother! LMAO I’d be dead by now if I didn’t balance that woman out with good stuff. So, even if this friend is draining you on purpose, you really don’t have to remove her from your friend list - you just need to balance her forces out. And when you’re interacting with her, constantly remind yourself… “I can identify with everything she just said… but that’s how SHE feels - I don’t feel that way right now.” Look inside and remember how you felt 5 minutes BEFORE something negative was presented to you… hang on to that, remind yourself 5 minutes ago you felt hungry, sleepy, cold, hot - whatever. NOT the way this person or force just made you consider feeling. See? Imagine your mood like the dial on a radio, your favorite song was just playing and you were grooving along, and all was well with the world - then someone hit’s the “SEEK” button and it lands on Barry Manilow. Hear the Manilow, acknowledge the Manilow, but CHANGE THE STATION before you FEEL the Manilow!! LMAO

Next Reply will address the paranormal aspect.
~Ang

[Ang]

Okay, first off, without the details, I have NO clue what this person might have “attached” to them, that could have possibly transferred itself to you. As the Bible itself say’s “Legion… for we are many.” It could be a million different things. Not knowing what it might be, makes it really hard to speculate on it’s possible ability to transfer… or what it might be capable of in the even it did transfer. Basically, I’m shooting in the dark here, and my information will be hit and miss at best.

First, I hope it’s not a poltergeist entity she’s got, that cleansing you did will only make it worse. This is why it’s commonly believed that poltergeist are demonic, if you go spiritual - they go postal. Were any of the kids with you when you preformed the cleansing? And have any of the kids ever been to her house with you? Again, I hope not if it’s a poltergeist. If a transferal occurred, it would have most likely been into or onto one of the kids. For some reason poltergeist are drawn to the trauma/drama of pre-teen and teenage children. And have any of the things that have been happening to you, in your home, been physical? Basically - the movement of matter… has anything solid been manipulated in any manner? This could be your house plants, your pets, your kids - inanimate objects, any solid matter. If you answer yes to this - I need to talk to you either on the phone or we should meet up somewhere. Hopefully what you have is a spirit attachment, which is MUCH easier to deal with and WAY less dangerous… simply because they were once human. A poltergeist may never have been human at all, they may well be a pure form of demonic energy… this is still a topic of great debate among so called “experts“.

At any rate, taking the dream into a more literal consideration, and looking at it as a possible manifestation … whatever it is, it had a choice of several people - yet directly attacked you. It attacked your mouth. It sounds as if it attempted to enter your mouth - maybe your whole body. Now why would an entity feel the need to do this? Perhaps by counseling your friend in regards to it’s presence in her life, and by doing a cleansing of her home - the entity felt threatened into “shutting you up”. The others in the dream wouldn’t have reacted - because the message wasn’t intended for them. You fought it off, which is great - that’s literal and figurative confirmation that you are stronger. But no guarantee it won’t happen again, or that the next attack won’t be more powerful. Under the circumstances, my best advice would be to proceed with caution. Until you know for sure what you’re dealing with, don’t do anything that might provoke another attack.

Now, in order to find out what this thing might be… you’ll need to know where it’s at first. Once you’re pretty sure you’re close to it, either inside your home or hers - ask. BUT, make sure you ask without fear, and are ready for the answer. It may come to you in your own mind, it may come to you through a sign, it may be something you dream - but the answer will come. If it’s a spirit attachment, obviously it has some ability to pool and use energy or it wouldn’t have been able to effect you… so it’s possible if you provide the spirit with a few tools - it might reveal itself fully to you. Because it might be a bad thing - be careful what you give it for tools though! LOL Do NOT try automatic writing, ouija boards, or anything that might in any way invite it to speak THRU you. Instead, turn on a box fan to create white noise and run a tape recorder, invite it to verbally identify itself. Lay a poster board in the center of the floor with a charcoal brickette on top of it and invite it to “write“. And verbally tell it you’re going to try to photograph it, then take several pictures in the area you think it might be in. If it truly wants to reveal itself and communicate - it will. You may get some answers this way.

Like I said, I’d need more info to be much help… but if it’s a spirit attachment, there’s many things you can do to encourage it to move on along. If it’s a demonic force… here isn’t the place to give advice, we need to meet up… preferably away from where you believe the entity to be.

~Ang

[PK]

That first dream is the only time I have felt attacked. And things have not been worse since then. Nothing more unusual than there normally is around here.

Zeus was a bit edgy for a few days, but he's a male dog--there may have been a bitch in heat somewhere...lol.

Right now all is well with the ghosts and things in my house. I did watch my house plant moving one night, it was more of a dance. Of course it was 4am and I had been up for awhile, and I think it was just growing and moving. We do know from watching nature films in fast speed that they move. It scared me at first (of course) but then I just realized it is a living thing and has to move.

I'm not losing any more sleep than I normally do (I have odd sleep pattern anyway).

My major concern is the draining of my energy--which you know me well--and I battle with that regardless of who is around or what's going on. You call me an Empath--I have thought I was a pyschic vampire myself because I do absorb what others are feeling...but empath sounds much nicer--I reckon..LOL.
I get what I call 'vibes' from people. It usually tells me who to avoid and I usually listen. I got some vibes from her when we first met, but they weren't that bad so I guess I let my guard down.

I do think something may be attached to her, and I have tried to avoid it and her as much as possible--or she is just so negative that it's manifested itself around her. I want to help her, but she is going to have to help herself first and quit drawing the negative to her. I know I am not strong enough to give her positive energy and retain my own. I can do this for my family and very closest friends only--but in those cases there is a lot of love and emotion involved.

It's helped me just getting the shit off my chest. You know us females--we gotta coddle the shit to death before we can let it go---like raising kids.

Chris said he felt it all the way in Springdale, but I think it was probably my feelings that he felt. You know we have an amazing bond and attachment going on. And he hasn't mentioned anything for about a month now--which is about how long it has taken me to 'dissolve' my feelings.

I have been trying to regain the positive and when you posted that message about it, it was just what I needed to be reminded of--and I know why you posted that particular message at that time. We may not be blood kin, but the bond is there as well.

On another note--I know that I have fought depression for years. I refuse to call it depression, I refuse to go to the doctor and take their damn little pills--because--I am strong minded, and strong willed and I refuse to admit defeat at this time. Yes, I had considered going to the doctor recently, but I am too stubborn to let this shit beat me. So for today all is peachy keen in the world--tomorrow it may just be peachy, but gotta take it one day at a time.

Hope I covered everything. My mind is racing--as usual. I wish I could just slow that down some. Maybe one day...lol

[PK]

Ya know...the dream could have been a warning that I would feel smothered or strangled by this person. Not sure if you pointed that out, but the thought just occured to me.

I really don't do a lot with dream work. Mine are usually wierd anyway so I just let them be--but they usually aren't warning signs either--just wierd.

I'll try to explain wierd. One night I dreamed that vampires were after me. That would terrify most people, but I have always seen them as more of the romantic type. The dracula movies where he's after the beautiful girl and you think "He can bite me"..or like Interview with the Vampire---even before the movie or book ever came out.

But in this dream I was afraid of them enough to be running from them and I had to eat a lot of sugar, because they didn't like sugary blood.

This is my normal dream type stuff...not usually with vamps but still just as odd. I'm thinking the sugar was the main key point to it.

So am I just coming up with excuses? Ya damn right. You know me, I gotta think it from all angles..lol

[Ang]

You guys are honestly closer to me than any of the rest of the family are. We even have kids that are compariable. (T & A) But, I wish the wave link they seem to share is one they'd got off of. LOL Maybe someday they'll mature and we'll be able to stop asking ourselves why we didn't eat our young when we had the chance. LOL

I ran some of the parts of your dream by a friend who's studied dream interpretation, and she said the unknown figures standing around might also signify "peers" in general, just the generic general public... since the figures were a little ambigious (looked alike) and were unknown. Do you remember any kind of reaction from them when the cloud came at you?

I'm not sure, and didn't have a chance to pick her brain, what these "peers" signify. I don't know what it's supposed to mean if you have "extras" milling about in your dreams. LOL

~Ang

[PK]

No clue. They just had that Amish look about them, old farmers or something like that...although they weren't old.

The wagon was on a dirt road, next to a fence (barb-wire, I think) with lots of pasture all around and the men were sort of between the fence and the wagon looking into the wagon at us. I don't think they reacted. In fact I don't think anyone really reacted. It was more like they were just there and everything was normal to them.

And right now I can't remember what the woman's husband said, but he did speak....at least I think it was him that spoke. I don't write my dreams down. I usually just want to go back to sleep, and if I wrote the stuff down, I'd stay up for hours thinking...lol..

I do replay it over in my head when I wake up so I will remember more details later when I actually wake up for the day.